The discussions on the pension reform take up this Tuesday, January three between the federal government and the unions with a presentation of the textual content subsequent week. We discuss concerning the arm wrestling to come back with thee boss of the CGT in Haute-Garonne.
France Bleu Occitanie: Do you contemplate Cédric Caubère that the dialogue is open or that the textual content is already closed?
Cedric Caubère: We will see that the textual content is already closed. Every little thing goes by 49.three proper now, so we do not see that these are moments of democracy. In any case, the expectations of workers are actually put aside.
However the unions, together with yours the CGT, will nonetheless come to the discussions?
In fact, after we are invited, we at all times ship a couple of delegates. However in truth, for the CGT, the precedence of the interval is to go and talk about with the workers to current to all of them the hazards of this challenge.
So a authorized retirement age that might enhance from 62 to 64, and even 65, for the CGT, is that a particular no?
It’s an aberration, it’s an aberration from a number of factors of view. The primary is primarily as a result of productiveness, financial efficiency imply that the sense of historical past ought to lead us to work much less time to provide as a lot and positively to provide higher.
However we enter, we enter the energetic life later and later. So turning 64 will come naturally to you?
We eat much more than earlier than. Now we have full fridges and but there are far fewer farmers. You see, what I imply is productiveness which is vital, the wealth created which and the way can or not it’s distributed?
Will it primarily penalize those that began working very younger?
However that is not the query? It’s about social injustice. We’re speaking about retiring earlier and earlier, working much less and being in good well being. And it’s also a really robust aspiration of the inhabitants. Staff need to get pleasure from life.
Are you able to compromise? 63, for instance, to retire?
Staff will not be able to compromise. They settle for social regression as a result of they have not been capable of do in any other case for years. And if we do not ask workers at this time at what age they need to go away, it is 55 and never 60.
And it is true that we’ve got a final ballot, it is true, a majority of French individuals reject this retirement at 65. However for all that, the newest demonstrations, the newest strikes, haven’t been an awesome success. How do you clarify that?
There have by no means been so many social conflicts for very lengthy years as in 2022. Inflation is creating at excessive velocity and our wages will not be maintaining. And the pensions don’t comply with. I assure you that for 2023 to be 12 months, workers should take their place.
There are numerous small rallies however no huge mobilizations that might make the federal government bend?
Now we have the expertise of 2010, there have been very giant demonstrations with a number of million workers within the streets a number of days every week. That is not what made you bend. However, what is going to make individuals bend is that the workers are mobilized at their place of job and never on the street. And we’re effectively on our solution to that.
Some predict a social explosion at the beginning of the 12 months. Do you actually consider it?
In any case, already, in Haute-Garonne, we’re calling for a day of mobilization on January 12, because the authorities will not be going to announce its well-known bulletins on the 10th, the content material of which we already know. So on the 12th, everybody have to be on deck.
What makes you say that individuals are going to mobilize in numbers once they did not on the finish of the 12 months?
I assure you that the workers are extraordinarily upset and scared. However in fact, the problem for that of employment is to make workers really feel that mobilization is feasible and that mobilization will repay.
A phrase additionally on the reform of unemployment insurance coverage. The federal government introduced to tighten the foundations much more a couple of days in the past. It plans to cut back the variety of days an individual is roofed by 40% as an alternative of 25% if the unemployment charge drops beneath six. You do not assume this can encourage a return to work?
It’s above all, I feel, that we’ve got above all to do with a authorities of bandits. They’re taking cash from workers’ pockets in each doable manner, beginning with essentially the most precarious workers, the unemployed. That is what is occurring. There are solely 36% of the unemployed who’re compensated at this time, so a lot of the unemployed obtain completely nothing. There’s at all times in Haute-Garonne and Occitanie; there are at all times 14 to 15 individuals registered with Pôle emploi for an advert. So a particularly giant variety of unemployed.
Is not aeronautics specifically, to call simply this sector, unable to recruit?
It isn’t true, it isn’t true. It’s an employer communication marketing campaign. It could shock you. And there are workers who’re educated, who need to work and who’re able to work straight away. There are heaps of them. Merely, we’ve got employers who make consider that they’re unable to recruit for varied causes. Particularly to obtain state subsidies, particularly for coaching, but additionally to place strain on unemployment insurance coverage, which is in keeping with what the Medef has been asking for for years.